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% Attack Damage Converted to Health
« on: 13 October 2018, 09:36:02 »
Hey, I have a question about ADCtH - does it work with DoT damages or it convert only direct, flat dmg?

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #1 on: 13 October 2018, 09:51:59 »
From what i know it is not, and ACVtH is some kind of Vitality dmg => its very useless when facing undead type monsters.

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #2 on: 13 October 2018, 10:21:24 »
1. ADCTH will only proc HP refill to player IF & ONLY IF the damage done in this hit to the mob is not a kill damage. So best used with mobs who dont get 1 shot.

2. ADCTH is similar resistance to vitality but seperate & undead & bosses have very low/zero susceptibility. Hero mobs have same resistance to ADCTH as their origin class.

3. undead susceptibility can be increased by "of betrayer", monkey-king, & some class talents (necrosis comes to mind, not 100% sure).

4. Works with any type of damage, static or DoT, as long as attack isnt fatal in this hit.

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #3 on: 13 October 2018, 10:26:41 »
1. ADCTH will only proc HP refill to player IF & ONLY IF the damage done in this hit to the mob is not a kill damage. So best used with mobs who dont get 1 shot.

2. ADCTH is similar resistance to vitality but seperate & undead & bosses have very low/zero susceptibility. Hero mobs have same resistance to ADCTH as their origin class.

3. undead susceptibility can be increased by "of betrayer", monkey-king, & some class talents (necrosis comes to mind, not 100% sure).

4. Works with any type of damage, static or DoT, as long as attack isnt fatal in this hit.
You can test with Undead ( skeleton) to reveal ADCtH work or not with them.
Its nearly useless in normal case, even when debuff reduced resistances of Undead Skeleton enemies.

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #4 on: 13 October 2018, 10:37:34 »
you could leach HP from undead after debuffing in IT, no idea about ragnarok. Ill try to find the web-archive of theorycrafting thread with numbers from old forums.

undead resistance is close to 100, so you'd have to throw many stacks of -resistance for it to work, but i HAVE DONE it in graveyards in IT, i do non-potion runs with massbosses, using hunter AoE.
« Last Edit: 13 October 2018, 10:40:05 by andyblast »

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #5 on: 13 October 2018, 10:39:07 »
1. ADCTH will only proc HP refill to player IF & ONLY IF the damage done in this hit to the mob is not a kill damage. So best used with mobs who dont get 1 shot.

2. ADCTH is similar resistance to vitality but seperate & undead & bosses have very low/zero susceptibility. Hero mobs have same resistance to ADCTH as their origin class.

3. undead susceptibility can be increased by "of betrayer", monkey-king, & some class talents (necrosis comes to mind, not 100% sure).

4. Works with any type of damage, static or DoT, as long as attack isnt fatal in this hit.

i think you are confusing ADCtH with life leech.. 1 is true for life leech but not for ADCtH

ADCtH does not work with DoT but life leech does if I'm not mistaken (not sure)

since AE you can't life steal from undeads anymore even with necrosis or reduced resist

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=646.msg6489#msg6489

edit: I've tested ADCtH before with poison.. no life return

edit 2: but someone here said before that you can life steal from undead dogs (act 2) but not from skeletons

edit 3: ahh i found the link for edit 2
https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=274.msg2460#msg2460

edit 4 (promise this is last edit :)
ADCtH does not have anything to do with vit res.. it is resisted by life leech res
« Last Edit: 13 October 2018, 11:01:35 by botebote77 »
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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #6 on: 13 October 2018, 10:58:13 »
1 Q. guys:

ADCTH seems to work more effectively if its on jewellery/artifact as compared to weapon. Is that legit observation or not?

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2018, 11:08:35 »
1 Q. guys:

ADCTH seems to work more effectively if its on jewellery/artifact as compared to weapon. Is that legit observation or not?
in the case of throwing knife (rogue skill) for sure yes

another possible answer is flat damage from other items like pendant of immortal rage or rage of ares possibly is not affected by ADCtH from weapon, but from jewelry yes
(needs confirmation)

but damage bonus is added directly to the weapon.. if it says bonus on the description (this has been tested by clex in one of his videos)
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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #8 on: 13 October 2018, 13:19:15 »
ADCTH is just flat (non-DoT) life leech, so shouldn't they work just the same?

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #9 on: 13 October 2018, 14:13:54 »
I'm not sure if life leech procs off DoT.. but ADCtH does not
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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #10 on: 13 October 2018, 14:34:09 »
No. Life leech procs off Life leech and no other type of DoT.

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #11 on: 13 October 2018, 18:46:43 »
Alot of useful info there. Thank you all for your answers  :)

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #12 on: 15 October 2018, 06:41:56 »
As far as I could figure, there seem only 2 artifacts with ADCTH:
Soul Shiver
Elemental Rage

Anyone knows others?

(Soul Shiver seems to have been nerfed with new patch)

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #13 on: 15 October 2018, 11:08:04 »
As far as I could figure, there seem only 2 artifacts with ADCTH:
Soul Shiver
Elemental Rage

Anyone knows others?

(Soul Shiver seems to have been nerfed with new patch)

I believe those are the only ones.

If you desperately need ADCTH, you would have more options when looking at other types of equipment.

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Re: % Attack Damage Converted to Health
« Reply #14 on: 15 October 2018, 13:20:08 »
another option is at least 2 pieces of children of ares set.. i like phobos + deimos.. 2 pieces gives 10% ADCtH
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