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Act V - 200 farming runs
« on: 29 January 2019, 21:46:25 »
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After some farming runs on Typhon and TQ-Database inspection, it appears that high-end Ragnarok stuff is dropped only in act V, with the exception of throwing weapons.
As Botebote77 showed in this thread: https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=6fcm7ek63l2dr3aaadle309mf2&topic=283.0, Surtr drop rate is rather low compared to Typhon.
Therefore, it is interesting to search for alternative runs.

Here is a compilation of notes taken over several weeks, about short farming sessions (30 to 45 mins per 20 runs) in act V made with a diviner.
Following Botebote77, all in Legenday with exit to desktop after each 10 runs.
(R) denotes Ragnarok items, F: a formula, and only legendary dragon blood charms are reported.

King Goldtooth

run  1 - one green
run  2 - Touch of Nyx (R)
run  3 - 0
run  4 - one green
run  5 - Archmage's Mantle, two greens
run  6 - two greens
run  7 - one green
run  8 - 0
run  9 - four greens
run 10 - one green
run 11 - 0
run 12 - Fingerbone of Boreas, F: Ethereal Veil
run 13 - two greens
run 14 - 0
run 15 - F: Apples of Idun (R), two greens
run 16 - Polydegmon
run 17 - three greens
run 18 - one green
run 19 - one green
run 20 - 0

Fafnir - Transformed Dvergr
run  1 - Andvaranaut (R), one green
run  2 - one green
run  3 - 0
run  4 - F: Gambanteinn (R), legendary Dragon Blood
run  5 - Helm of Darkness
run  6 - 0
run  7 - two greens
run  8 - 0
run  9 - 0
run 10 - Plouton's Cornucopia
run 11 - 0
run 12 - Wings of Carnus, one green
run 13 - one green, legendary Dragon Blood
run 14 - 0
run 15 - Fist of the Fiery Legion
run 16 - Gusir's Gifts (R), one green
run 17 - Hermes' Winged Helm
run 18 - one green
run 19 - 0
run 20 - one green

Hildisvini - Golden boar
run  1 - one green
run  2 - one green
run  3 - Nemesis' Recurve
run  4 - 0
run  5 - one green
run  6 - one green
run  7 - Mark of Ares
run  8 - F: Apples of Idun (R)
run  9 - 0
run 10 - 0
run 11 - Touch of Nyx (R)
run 12 - one green
run 13 - one green
run 14 - 0
run 15 - one green
run 16 - 0
run 17 - 0
run 18 - 0
run 19 - 0
run 20 - two greens

Austri and Nar - Dvergr Overlords
run  1 - three greens
run  2 - 0
run  3 - Band of Souls, MI Dvergr-Forged Edge Mace (R), two greens
run  4 - MI Dvergr-Forged Battle Axe (R), one green
run  5 - two greens
run  6 - one green
run  7 - MI Dvergr-Forged Battle Axe (R)
run  8 - Plouton's Crown, one green
run  9 - MI Prospector Rod (R), one green
run 10 - Hector's Shimmering Shield, two greens
run 11 - MI Prospector Rod (R)
run 12 - MI Dvergr-Forged Edge Mace (R), two greens
run 13 - two greens
run 14 - 0
run 15 - 0
run 16 - one green
run 17 - one green
run 18 - MI Prospector Rod (R), two greens
run 19 - F: Ikon of Zeus, MI Prospector Rod (R), MI Dvergr-Forged Edge Mace (R), one green
run 20 - MI Master Seer Robe (R), two greens

Thrym - King of Jotunheim
run  1 - F: Ikon of Zeus
run  2 - 0
run  3 - one green
run  4 - one green
run  5 - 0
run  6 - Wings of Carnus
run  7 - two greens
run  8 - 0
run  9 - Plouton's Bracelet
run 10 - 0
run 11 - one green
run 12 - The Glory of Belenus (R)
run 13 - The Earth-Shaker
run 14 - two greens
run 15 - Tracker's Leg Guard
run 16 - 0
run 17 - 0
run 18 - F: Marduk's Tablet of Destiny
run 19 - one green
run 20 - Drakaina, one green

Mimer - Keeper of Knowledge

run  1 - one green
run  2 - Plate of Toutatis (R)
run  3 - two greens
run  4 - 0
run  5 - 0
run  6 - 0
run  7 - one green
run  8 - two greens
run  9 - 0
run 10 - 0
run 11 - F: Gambanteinn (R), one green
run 12 - 0
run 13 - one green
run 14 - 0
run 15 - 0
run 16 - one green
run 17 - Night-terror Wraps, one green
run 18 - 0
run 19 - Eye of Reveries
run 20 - 0

Nidhoggr - Tormentor of the Dead

run  1 - Blessing of the Moirae (R)
run  2 - The Celtic Hounds (R)
run  3 - 0
run  4 - one green
run  5 - legendary Dragon Blood
run  6 - legendary Dragon Blood
run  7 - one green
run  8 - Tracker's Hood, one green
run  9 - 0
run 10 - 0
run 11 - 0
run 12 - Ancile
run 13 - legendary Dragon Blood
run 14 - Blessing of the Moirae (R), Hades' Aspis
run 15 - legendary Dragon Blood
run 16 - F: Eye of Ra
run 17 - two greens
run 18 - legendary Dragon Blood, one green
run 19 - one green
run 20 - Golden Shield of Pelaron, one green

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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #1 on: 29 January 2019, 21:46:51 »
Sinmara - High Priestess of the Flame
run  1 - one green
run  2 - 0
run  3 - 0
run  4 - MI Blacksteel Plate (R), one green
run  5 - one green
run  6 - 0
run  7 - 0
run  8 - three greens
run  9 - three greens
run 10 - Shroud of Eirene, one green
run 11 - 0
run 12 - one green
run 13 - 0
run 14 - two greens
run 15 - one green
run 16 - one green
run 17 - F: Gambanteinn (R), one green
run 18 - 0
run 19 - 0
run 20 - Hermes' Winged Helm

Loki - Trickster God
run  1 - 0
run  2 - Loki's Wand (R)
run  3 - 0
run  4 - one green
run  5 - 0
run  6 - Persephone's Ring, two greens
run  7 - one green
run  8 - 0
run  9 - one green
run 10 - one green
run 11 - 0
run 12 - one green
run 13 - three greens
run 14 - Hera's Schield, Loki's Wand (R), two greens
run 15 - Spear of the Dryads
run 16 - one green
run 17 - Esus' Travelling Boots (R)
run 18 - Wall of the Damned
run 19 - one green
run 20 - one green

Surtr - Lord of Muspelheim, Fire Incarnate
run  1 - two greens
run  2 - Gungnir (R), two greens
run  3 - Hades' Aspis
run  4 - Mjolnir (R)
run  5 - two greens
run  6 - 0
run  7 - 0
run  8 - Crest of Hypnos
run  9 - 0
run 10 - two greens
run 11 - two greens
run 12 - one green
run 13 - two greens
run 14 - two greens
run 15 -
run 16 - Golden Agris Helmet (R), one green
run 17 - one green
run 18 - Eye of Reveries, F: Lyre of Apollo
run 19 - one green
run 20 - 0

Summary
Goldtooth  - 4 purples, 2 formulas, 21 greens
Fafnir         - 6 purples (+1 Andva), 1 formula, 9 greens, 2 dragon blood
Hildisvini    - 3 purples, 1 formula, 9 greens
Overlords  - 3 purples, 1 formula, 24 greens, 10 MIs
Thrym        - 6 purples, 2 formulas, 9 greens
Mimer        - 3 purples, 1 formula, 10 greens
Nidhoggr   - 7 purples, 1 formula, 8 greens, 5 dragon blood
Sinmara    - 2 purples, 1 formula, 16 greens, 1 MI
Loki           - 5 purples (+2 wands), 0 formula, 15 greens
Surtr         - 6 purples, 1 formula, 18 greens

Act 5 bosses seem to have the same low drop rate as Surtr if we consider that RNG will give substantial differences in another farming runs.
In particular, Sinmara, Mimer, the Overlords and Hildisvini drop rates seem terrible. Note that Overlords runs are still interesting for the valuable MIs.

That said some runs are easier than others. Thrym is the easiest: as short as 20 mins per 20 runs, whereas Mimer, Nidhogrr, Loki and Surtr are the longest ones.
Special mention for the Mimer run which is the painful one, hands down. On the other hand, some of these runs are Xmax-able: Fafnir, Hildisvini and Nidhoggr, because of orbs.
Surtr orbs are bugged, so the main boss is not Xmax-able.

For these reasons (and as a personal preference), Thrym run appears to be the most efficient one without Xmax. Fafnir the most efficient with Xmax.
« Last Edit: 29 January 2019, 21:51:56 by Tauceti »

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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #2 on: 29 January 2019, 22:16:38 »
mimer runs are really really painful especially in xmax.. dem most of the time you can't even attack because you get teleported after being teleported after being teleported.. but i found a much easier way.. mimer only multiplies and only casts his shield once he sees you.. so if you can attack him without him seeing you, he doesn't multiply and he doesn't cast his shields.. and he doesn't teleport you   :P

although it's still possible you encounter a doppelganger on the way

dem you should've added the greens, even if select ones only.. like one with rare prefix and suffix only

i remember one time surtr dropped 3 orbs for me.. but it was only one time and like 20-30x about 50x only 2 orbs

edit: i forgot the 20 runs i did on my farming thread was vanilla.. so only about 30x only 2 orbs
« Last Edit: 29 January 2019, 22:55:49 by botebote77 »
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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #3 on: 30 January 2019, 09:51:10 »
I got substantial number of Ragnarok legendaries from other sources, than bosses. Like chests standing on the fringe of Lower and Higher ashes maps.

Spoiler for Hiden:


Fun fact: you can open Loki's chest before you kill him. Just run past him, open it and take what you need. You won't be able to open the door though and progress the main storyline until you fight him.

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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #4 on: 30 January 2019, 20:04:49 »
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mimer only multiplies and only casts his shield once he sees you.. so if you can attack him without him seeing you, he doesn't multiply and he doesn't cast his shields..
I willl remember this for a ranged toon. As a ternion diviner, no choice though. Furthermore, when Mimer casts a purple shield on himself, he become immune to vitality damage. Therefore i was happy with the low drop rate so that there was no need to do this run.

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dem you should've added the greens, even if select ones only.. like one with rare prefix and suffix only
It takes time, there is a whole bunch. Actually i reported greens only to check if purple and green drop rates were correlated. I don't see any link.

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i remember one time surtr dropped 3 orbs for me.. but it was only one time and like 20-30x about 50x only 2 orbs
It wasn't designed for xmax  ;D. Sometimes nothing happens when we click on the 2nd orb.

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Like chests standing on the fringe of Lower and Higher ashes maps.
Worth it for a blacksteel run, as well as the Loki trick.

I've forgotten a tip for Fafnir: he can't cast his red circle if we melee him, like Hydra.


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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #5 on: 30 January 2019, 21:21:56 »
Sometimes nothing happens when we click on the 2nd orb.
you might've missed on some loot.. the 2nd orb will open if you stand at the very edge closest to the orb before you click on the orb
Spoiler for Hiden:

just skip to the end when surtr is dead
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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #6 on: 31 January 2019, 23:10:53 »
yep maybe i 've lost orbs sometimes...

Didn't know one could launch poison bombs that far, ouch  :o
I like this cheesing trick because it's part of the game, not a bug. Like traps.

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Re: Act V - 200 farming runs
« Reply #7 on: 03 February 2019, 11:08:10 »
run 15 - Fist of the Fiery Legion
Translator:
The legionnaire's weapon!!! I need this, I need this very much.

Please check PM.

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Thanks Tauceti.
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