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How feasible is a non-summoning summoner
« on: 18 September 2018, 19:37:46 »
I have wanted to get Flame Surge to work as a primary attack and I am wondering if a summoner build with no summons may work.

Primary attack: Flame Surge
Heart of Oak: to cut costs in half and more health/resistances
Plague: Debuff and a buff to flame surge
Other standard earth skills.

Would it work?  Too glass cannony?

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Re: How feasible is a non-summoning summoner
« Reply #1 on: 18 September 2018, 19:46:46 »
In lategame, you will probably have maxed everything you needed and be left with an amazing amount of exceeding skill points. You will probably be forced to put some skills points on pets.
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Re: How feasible is a non-summoning summoner
« Reply #2 on: 18 September 2018, 19:52:30 »
That's fine.  I imagine I'd end up going with the Core Dweller at some point, but he'd be more of a side point rather than focal point as most summons are in a summoner build.

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Re: How feasible is a non-summoning summoner
« Reply #3 on: 19 September 2018, 00:29:04 »
the way I'm understanding this you want a mage but it's ok to have pets if they are just side points, right?

well, take this from someone who has played mages all his gaming life :)
pets are always side points when you are playing mages

edit: just consider the jewelries.. for mages, you want something like occult, socrates.. but for pets, you want wraithlords and the like.. if you make it mixed, you won't have an area of excellence

but WNG is right, you will have to put points in pets because you will have maxed everything you need
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Re: How feasible is a non-summoning summoner
« Reply #4 on: 19 September 2018, 09:30:09 »
Summoner is possibly one of the most synergystic casters in this game, don't look at its class name, it only represents what the devs thought might be appropriate at the time. With nature pets and core dweller it is certainly not the worst full summoner, but with fire spells, plague, briar ward and heart of oak it is also one of the best casters in the game. Some people reported here that there are no mobs with high fire absorbtion in the game, so plague with fire spells should carry you through all difficulties. I'm only concerned about flame surge, at the times of main game and IT it was severely underperforming and I haven't tried it in Ragnarok to have an opinion. It might be better to go with tried and tested volcanic orb and eruption. Regardless of what you do, better try to incorporate eruption there, its one of the best aoe damage spells in the game for 12 points. And you won't be short on skill points in 70's.

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Core dweller is also an always get it crowd control option for earth casters.

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