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Low health points for casters?
« on: 20 April 2018, 01:09:16 »
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I am rather new to this forum so i'll try to be as
thorough as i can possibly can with my questions on this platform.
First of all the very thing i need to mention is  that its
been years since i've played the original game of
Titan Quest and so it seems that in the meantime
lots iof things have chaged with new additional expansions of the game.
Basicly i have all of them installed on my pc yet i haven't played them all because wanted to start from the biggining ntthing wrong with that.
My predicament here is the following i'm playing an oracle so hes an basic all INT caster
and the thing i've noticed about him is the incredibly low
health point it gatheres up i did somewhere that thats usually
the case with all casters but i've also seen some youtubers
that run casters and they would be 50+lv with well over then 4k in health points numbers
whichi i lways believed it was an ability reserved for melee heroes only
and it got me thinking am i doing something wrong here or the youtubers that make these
types of videos use some mods to increase their stats somehow would really
like to know whats going on

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #1 on: 20 April 2018, 11:06:46 »
My guess is these players use gear that gives you extra health.
Oracle and a lot of other caster types generally have low health anyway, they're mage types, glass cannons.
Health isn't everything though, have damage retaliation, resistences to types of damage and defensive ability also helps.

Also if you're a pure caster type doing things from afar, killing things before they can get to you and dodging attacks, you shouldn't need so much health anyway.

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #2 on: 20 April 2018, 11:11:14 »
hello and welcome.. ahem i like casters.. i typically only play casters.. but my casters are different.. personally, i don't consider ternion users as casters but well it depends on the person that looks at it.. i too post videos but i don't suppose you've seen em yet?

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=213.0

no mods, no cheats, just hours of grinding ;D

edit: i correct myself.. xmax is a mod :|

i very rarely put points on health.. actually i don't think I've put points on health on any of my characters now.. my survivability largely relies on CCs.. also, i don't like using staves.. if you're curious you can check my sig (i eat mana for breakfast).. it redirects to a link.. now I'm not saying you ignore ternion.. it's just not my cup of tea.. for ternion oracle maybe you'll have difficulty stacking CDRs because you can't sacrifice attack speed and DPS.. i also don't see too many CCs on oracle so maybe you just have to focus on life steal.. is that enough? guhhh i realize now this is not my style so I'm probably not any help.. but welcome to the forum

edit: and yeah I'll say it again.. this might seem weird but one of the reasons why i like casters is because i hate dying.. kiting is my game and i find it hard to do that with weapon users ???
« Last Edit: 21 April 2018, 04:08:42 by botebote77 »
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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #3 on: 20 April 2018, 11:57:46 »
I've kited with melee but yeah it's not easy, I've only really done it early on until I got my defenses up so I could take hits.

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #4 on: 27 April 2018, 16:51:08 »
TQ allows you to put points straight into health, and I guess some people actually do that.

Especially now with AE and Ragnarok though, manoeuvring, crowd control, and crowd control redundancies seems to be the most reliable means of increasing survivability, and casters should have acces to plenty. In other words: place your glass canon in a trench or on a moped. Place it in the middle of a field of cows, and it'll most likely break.

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #5 on: 27 April 2018, 17:14:22 »
Especially now with AE and Ragnarok though, manoeuvring, crowd control, and crowd control redundancies seems to be the most reliable means of increasing survivability, and casters should have acces to plenty.
i think there are very few people that think the same way.. don't worry though you can be sure i agree with you :))
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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #6 on: 27 April 2018, 20:41:36 »
Poinas' tip from a long time ago.  You get 2 bonus attribute points as part of the rewards in the following quests: Chiron's Bow side quest, when you hand in the Eye of Chaos and Hand of Balance to Imhotep in Memphis as part of the main quest and the Terracota Soliders side quest.  That's 6 per difficulty and 18 in total.  He recommended putting these bonus points into health.  In the IT version of the game that gives you another 450 health points, don't know what it is for the AE version and there may be another quest in Ragnarok that also gives attributes.  Haven't run it enough times to know.

From his Pwning with Spirit guide.

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #7 on: 27 April 2018, 20:46:07 »
Also, if you're going with nature, Heart of Oak gives you a % bonus in extra health.

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #8 on: 27 April 2018, 21:02:16 »
No there are no more attribute points as quest reward, but hp and mana gained per point invested has changed since IT.

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- Attribute points now yield 40 Health or Energy per invested point

https://titanquestgame.com/pcchangelog/TQ_AnniversaryEdition_FullChangelog.txt

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #9 on: 27 April 2018, 21:04:26 »
Weird, I got attribute points as quest rewards on my last few chars.
Heck I not long ago did that terracotta quest and talked to the emperor's ghost and I'm pretty sure I got 2 attribute points as a reward.
« Last Edit: 27 April 2018, 21:06:10 by Deepblue »

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #10 on: 27 April 2018, 21:12:49 »
No more than there already were I mean. No such quest rewards in act V

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Re: Low health points for casters?
« Reply #11 on: 27 April 2018, 21:18:48 »
What's changed is each one now gives more per point invested.  So 18 points will now give 720 health in AE instead of the 450 of IT.

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