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Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
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Re: Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
« Reply #1 on: 10 July 2018, 11:52:51 »
Could you please test if "take down" skill is still bugged or not? I'm on 1.54 and the skill simply does not do what the description says.. it won't add the flat damage and/or damage% a spear already has, to its specific attack.. it just seems to deal its own 180ish flat pierce damage at +4 max level without adding your character's own damage to it.. I suspect not even the health reduction part works.. I'm simply dealing more damage to enemies with my default attack.. this must be a joke..

The last message on the page also refers to this problem but it appears devs don't bother with detailed questions and simply ignore them..

https://steamcommunity.com/app/475150/discussions/0/1470841715981875426/?ctp=3 
« Last Edit: 10 July 2018, 19:46:40 by Hector »

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Re: Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
« Reply #2 on: 10 July 2018, 12:41:37 »
Could you please test if "take down" skill is still bugged or not? I'm on 1.54 and the skill simply does not do what the description says..
Ok I'll check. If you share your character with me it'll be easy to discuss my findings.

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Re: Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
« Reply #3 on: 11 July 2018, 00:50:34 »
Thanks, awaiting your results :)

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Re: Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
« Reply #4 on: 12 July 2018, 13:00:48 »
Could you please test if "take down" skill is still bugged or not?
It does consider spear damage.
Undead don't take health reduction damage, so take-down doesn't do much good there.
Also, with normal attack you get chance of  'Pulvarize', 'Disable', 'Shield smash' skills used. Which add more damage to the attack.

Damages are not consistent due to following factors:
   -randomization
   -region where attack hits (torso, head, leg, arm)  // this is one more type of randomization
   -enemy stats (gear, resistances, defensive ability)
So it's hard to give exact difference between the attack types.

Following is combat data(legendary difficulty) with:
Hector's spear
   +32% physical damage
   +14% physical damage
   +30% pierce damage

Take-down level 16
   45% reduction to enemy health
   187 piercing damage

Here are 3 hits and 3 Take-Downs on Zombie undead
Spoiler for Hiden:
Enemy : Zombie\Greece_AM_Festering_06.dbr
3 Normal hits
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     Total Damage: 675.011658
     17.995949 of Physical  +14% Physical
     355.492493 of Physical +32% Physical
     106.209885 of Pierce   +30% Pierce

     Total Damage: 968.762146
     36.095795 of Physical
     554.903442 of Physical
     147.314560 of Pierce

     Total Damage: 663.986816
     20.220663 of Physical
     340.837708 of Physical
     103.296539 of Pierce

  3 take-down hits
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     Total Damage: 782.884644
       84.261894 of Pierce
     25.579756 of Physical
     356.581787 of Physical
     106.426422 of Pierce
     
    Total Damage: 744.677612
       84.261894 of Pierce
     25.253668 of Physical
     325.510681 of Physical
     100.249557 of Pierce
     
    Total Damage: 860.756470
       84.261894 of Pierce
     23.861380 of Physical
     425.755920 of Physical
     120.178078 of Pierce
 

These are 3 hits on sytyr archer
Spoiler for Hiden:
Enemy: Satyr\AR_Archer_06.dbr
 Satyr archer
 3 Normal hits
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     Total Damage: 1437.583618
     34.146088 of Physical
     650.855469 of Physical
     525.918457 of Pierce

     Total Damage: 968.318665
     20.475523 of Physical
     390.164124 of Physical
     357.552399 of Pierce

     Total Damage: 1172.008911
     28.510330 of Physical
     500.886780 of Physical
     426.888306 of Pierce

3 take-down hits
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     Total Damage: 1257.109131
      294.916656 of Pierce
      1015.068054 of PercentCurrentLife
     18.763828 of Physical
     389.492737 of Physical
     357.131989 of Pierce

     Total Damage: 1242.278564
      294.916656 of Pierce
      622.773987 of PercentCurrentLife
     19.494986 of Physical
     379.050659 of Physical
     350.593048 of Pierce

     Total Damage: 1269.624268
      294.916656 of Pierce
      302.629425 of PercentCurrentLife
     19.119633 of Physical
     396.545105 of Physical
     361.548248 of Pierce

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Re: Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
« Reply #5 on: 12 July 2018, 20:10:29 »
Thanks koderkrazy..

So according to these results, which are not surprising indeed, takedown serves no purpose other than being a "gap closer"..

I mean how could this be real? when you hit an enemy with it, you already supposed to have all your damage from your normal attack, plus 180 something pierce damage (which should also be multiplied by your %pierce sources), plus 45% life reduction.. it shouldn't be worse than your normal hit (not any shield passive triggered attacks, just normal), should it?

How does life reduction work in this game BTW? I have no wireless right now so I can't watch Clex's videos.. when I hit any living enemy with takedown, I notice only something close to half of their life is gone.. maybe the skill is bugged and only apply life reduction and nothing else? could that be the case?

45% + 180 flat pierce + normal attack damage ≠ 45%   ???

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Re: Patch 1.57 changes Video by Faethontas
« Reply #6 on: 12 July 2018, 21:06:44 »
takedown serves no purpose other than being a "gap closer"..
Yep, it's raise your spear and yolo   ::)
It should've been strong like Phantom and Lethal strikes.

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it shouldn't be worse than your normal hit (not any shield passive triggered attacks, just normal), should it?
Shield passives did trigger more often(while collecting data) and added 800-900 damage. I haven't included those logs to avoid confusion. They make normal attack more powerful without you knowing about it.


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How does life reduction work in this game BTW?
Undeads are so op in this game. This is game version of 'The Walking Dead'.

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