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champion which skill and attribute
« on: 18 September 2019, 01:28:54 »
i want to try a champion and im planning to go melee fighting with the summon , i'd like some advice on which skill to max and what attribute ratio to go for.

Also i should mention that i do not own the ragnarok or atlantis expansion but i might get them in the future so some items wont be possible to use.

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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #1 on: 19 September 2019, 11:19:20 »
I tried a melee champion once in Epic but it wasn't my style. I prefer my Soothsayer caster but that's just a personal preference.

If you want to go melee you'll need to decide if you are going to dual wield (glass cannon) or use a shield (better survivability).
Regarding attributes I'd go for 2:1 strength:dexterity. You'll need a lot of strength for damage and heavy armor. Depending on the weapon dex will help with pierce damage.

I would try to max the following skills - Warfare:
- Weapon Training
- Onslaught and it's synergies
- Dodge Attacks
- Battle Standard and it's synergy
- Dual Wield and it's synergies (if you are going to dual wield)

I would try to max the following skills - Nature:
- Heart of Oak and it's synergy "Permanence of Stone" ("Tranquility of Water" is not so important in my opinion but if you have spare points...)
- Call of the Wild and it's synergy "Strength of the Pack"
- Plague and it's synergies

On top of that you should invest some points in Regrowth, Accelerated Growth and Dissemination to heal yourself and your pets. Refresh helps to lower the cooldown of your skills.
You need to decide if you also want to use the Nymph or the Ancestral Warriors because you won't have enough points for both. From my experience the War Horn/Doom Horn is nice for standard mobs but bosses are immune to stun and reduction to health so it's use is limited. I would invest at least one point in War Wind and Lacerate so you can jump into the fray and hit multiple opponents at once. One point in Battle Rage is also good.

There are certainly more experienced players out there that can provide tips for an ongoing champion so take the above as "opinion of a rookie". ;)

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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #2 on: 19 September 2019, 11:41:15 »
If you get Atlantis you'll get access to a skill called Lasting Legacy which provides more lifetime for ancestral warriors, in which case, together with Refresh, you probably won't need any, or only a little recharge to keep them permanent. Without Atlantis and Rag you'd need to support yourself with -recharge items, I don't know which ones you have or not, but it's possible to do without going INT. You won't need to pump points into HP / EP either with those masteries, so I suggest around half / half STR / DEX, and possibly a bit into HP, depending on how much you have later.

For leveling I guess it's easier to rely on summons first, so go wolves + Strength of the Pack, a few points into Heart of Oak and Plague once you get to Susceptibility, then in warfare probably Dodge Attacks, Battle Standard for bosses, a point in War Horn then rush Ancestors with Refresh.
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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #3 on: 19 September 2019, 13:10:19 »
Btw. get as many +x to skills items as you can so you can save some skill points on the pet summons. For example on my Soothsayer I currently have +7 to all skills in Nature mastery so I only have Call of the Wild and Sylvan Nymph at 13 and can still cast 3 level 20 wolves and a level 20 nymph. That's 6 skill points that I can put somewhere else. Even if you only equip the items to initially summon your pets they will stay at the summoned level. Of course this trick doesn't work for their active skills which will be lowered when you don't have the +x skills items equipped.

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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #4 on: 19 September 2019, 13:33:13 »
Even if you only equip the items to initially summon your pets they will stay at the summoned level. Of course this trick doesn't work for their active skills which will be lowered when you don't have the +x skills items equipped.
Yes, be sure to do that with Battle Standard, since it gives +1 skills, and initiallly with mastery shrines too.
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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #5 on: 19 September 2019, 18:25:14 »
If you get Atlantis you'll get access to a skill called Lasting Legacy which provides more lifetime for ancestral warriors, in which case, together with Refresh, you probably won't need any, or only a little recharge to keep them permanent. Without Atlantis and Rag you'd need to support yourself with -recharge items, I don't know which ones you have or not, but it's possible to do without going INT. You won't need to pump points into HP / EP either with those masteries, so I suggest around half / half STR / DEX, and possibly a bit into HP, depending on how much you have later.

For leveling I guess it's easier to rely on summons first, so go wolves + Strength of the Pack, a few points into Heart of Oak and Plague once you get to Susceptibility, then in warfare probably Dodge Attacks, Battle Standard for bosses, a point in War Horn then rush Ancestors with Refresh.





how much strenght and dex is good before i can just pick one and put the leftover point in hp or strength 500 strenght and 400 dex?


and i was thinking going warfare to start get onslaught and weapon mastery maxed as soon as possible then switch to nature
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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #6 on: 19 September 2019, 18:48:41 »
how much strenght and dex is good before i can just pick one and put the leftover point in hp or strength 500 strenght and 400 dex?

and i was thinking going warfare to start get onslaught and weapon mastery maxed as soon as possible then switch to nature
Enough dex to wear stonebinders is a good threshold, but there's no exact number i can give you, because A) -%requirement gear B) attributes given by gear. The simplest way is to put just enough to wear items until you're sure - keep them if you don't need to spend them.

Personally I'd think leveling with wolves would be easier, but if you prefer to melee right away, it shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: champion which skill and attribute
« Reply #7 on: 20 September 2019, 03:09:13 »
yea i think i can keep a couple of  unspent point , and yea your right i should probably start with nature first

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