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Title: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Typhon on 14 November 2017, 12:58:24
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( He's mean.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 14 November 2017, 13:34:48
He is that.  But which one are you talking about.  Toxeus the Green is way worse than the one in the Secret Passage.  The SP one I died to several times before I learnt how to deal with him, but I've run into Toxeus the Green so rarely he usually kills me.  My first and worst encounter with him was when I was playing M4ssboss3s mod where he appears in a group of 5 of him.  On the Megara Coast heading towards the town and wow!  Suddenly there's 5 big green skellies racing towards me.  Killed me twice and I just couldn't get past them so had to exit the game and restart, hoping they wouldn't spawn again - which they didn't.  Stocked up on damage to undead and less damage from undead items from my TQVault and when I ran into them again in the tomb in the Athenian Graveyard I was able to deal with them. Luckily I was also able to separate them more down in the tomb so could tackle them one by one.  He is one nasty dude.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: botebote77 on 14 November 2017, 14:43:09
He is that.  But which one are you talking about.  Toxeus the Green is way worse than the one in the Secret Passage.  The SP one I died to several times before I learnt how to deal with him, but I've run into Toxeus the Green so rarely he usually kills me.  My first and worst encounter with him was when I was playing M4ssboss3s mod where he appears in a group of 5 of him.  On the Megara Coast heading towards the town and wow!  Suddenly there's 5 big green skellies racing towards me.  Killed me twice and I just couldn't get past them so had to exit the game and restart, hoping they wouldn't spawn again - which they didn't.  Stocked up on damage to undead and less damage from undead items from my TQVault and when I ran into them again in the tomb in the Athenian Graveyard I was able to deal with them. Luckily I was also able to separate them more down in the tomb so could tackle them one by one.  He is one nasty dude.

ah TQ the original.. haven't played that game in ages and i was only playing it in a computer shop back then.. does the green one have thorns too?
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 14 November 2017, 15:39:02
No idea.  I'm either running for my life or dead!  :D
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Benitot on 14 November 2017, 21:25:28

ah TQ the original.. haven't played that game in ages and i was only playing it in a computer shop back then.. does the green one have thorns too?

Yes he has thorns. My first encounter was under Wusao mountain and I lost a lot of experience points against him; he just has so many ways to kill you if you have bad resistances.

I've killed him many times since but I usually avoid places full of undeads while playing M4ssboss3s.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: sauruz on 14 November 2017, 21:44:27
I have played alot and i havent found him yet, maybe i dont play legendary much :S
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: botebote77 on 14 November 2017, 23:22:03
I have played alot and i havent found him yet, maybe i dont play legendary much :S
he's always there in SP if you play TQIT/AE

No idea.  I'm either running for my life or dead!  :D
i like this answer
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 15 November 2017, 09:53:24
Toxeus the Green can appear anywhere on any difficulty iirc.  My first encounter in M4ssboss3s was in Normal so I had very little gear to tackle him (them) with being only around L20 or so by that point.  I think his favourite places are in the MinoLab and the tombs in the Vally of the Kings iirc.

botebote77, there are two versions of Toxeus in the game.  The one in the SP is always there and that's the only place he spawns.  Toxeus the Green on the other hand can appear anywhere else in the game - he's never in the SP.  And he is much nastier than the SP one.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: botebote77 on 15 November 2017, 15:46:20
TQ the original: I'm sure you're right
TQIT: can't remember.. haven't played it in years
TQAE: haven't found him yet.. not saying he doesn't appear anymore.. i just haven't found him yet.. or he got too weak for me to even notice (i don't think that's the case)

i think he also spawns in megara.. i have mixed feelings if i want to see him in AE

anyway, Typhon dude there are tricks to beating him (the SP one).. Dactyl might even be more dangerous.. or the demon bull in act 3 (the legendary version hits hard).. as for toxeus the green, if you meet him, run away or just lay dead.. or quickly escape and exit the game lol
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Typhon on 16 November 2017, 00:08:20
I can throw a bone in his general direction and hope he goes away... but no, I always quit to the main menu and load back in if he's there :P
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: glovmpop on 16 November 2017, 01:29:22
I don't think I've ever met Toxeus the Green.  ???
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: sauruz on 16 November 2017, 12:35:34
yes, theres are 2x types of toxeus

1) regular hero spawn ( its super deadly, the most deadly foe ingame), he appears in legendary our epic, but if you running xmax our massbooss you will see him alot in normal, with skellies groups in greece and valley of kings

2) SP, hes dangerous but not deadly as the 1st one.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 16 November 2017, 14:03:29
Btw Toxeus the Green isn't his real name, just called that because he's predominantly green in colour.  His real name is Toxeus the Murderer.  So be warned - he certainly lives up to it!
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Cygi on 16 November 2017, 14:12:42
Toxeus from the final room of The Prison location (Lilith mod) is pretty annoying.
And yeah, he killed many of my toons.

Too many.

Medea is right, his title is accurate.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: glovmpop on 16 November 2017, 15:06:02
If he's as bad as you lot make him sound, I might just have repressed any memories I have of encounters with him!  ::)
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Typhon on 16 November 2017, 23:01:33
Is there any mythological background on Toxeus? Or was he just made up by the devs as a way to screw around with the players?
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: sauruz on 17 November 2017, 00:18:11
he do have a myth ingame, killing wanna be heroes  8)
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Typhon on 17 November 2017, 00:41:54
 Well, yes O0 but I meant Greek myths/etc. :P
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: botebote77 on 17 November 2017, 01:03:00
Well, yes O0 but I meant Greek myths/etc. :P
a little Google search

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxeus

but you see, it's a little weird in-game.. as far as i know there are no undeads in Greek myth.. they have underworld creatures and deities.. but zombies and skeletal warriors? i haven't read of any.. and i like Greek myths.. satyrs are viewed as good creatures in Greek mythology. Romans see them as bad creatures.. but this is Greek mythology.. if this is Roman, it should be Ares saying the words "hail mighty hero" when you kill typhon.. typhon the titan, not you  >:D
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: gasconron on 05 December 2017, 00:44:22
I only played HC and deleted toons when I got a "1". So I do remember distinctly. I'd say around 7-8 that I can distinctly remember. Other encounters I ran away from obviously.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Autentist on 05 December 2017, 11:29:02
Only played Tempar, Haruspex and Conqueror, so... actually none.

Several times I also went there with powerful partner, basically waiting it out instead.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: nargil66 on 07 December 2017, 05:15:33
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but you see, it's a little weird in-game.. as far as i know there are no undeads in Greek myth.. they have underworld creatures and deities.. but zombies and skeletal warriors? i haven't read of any.. and i like Greek myths..

I'm thinking in exact same way. Skeletons doesn't fit greek myths, ghosts maybe, but skeletons? Unless you are a hardcore DnD fan, and im not. I have thought before to replace all skeletons in deities with ghosts/wraiths and who knows, maybe when the mod is more complete...

On the topic - I have been killed by Toxeus several times, but not in vanilla, in Soulvizier. He was an Egypt uber hero there. Really nasty one.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Laionidas on 10 April 2018, 18:48:03
It's weird how Toxeus has been notorious even pre-IT, yet I've never had any real trouble with either Toxeus. It seems to be somewhat character specific at least.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Zjapper on 21 July 2019, 06:40:21
He owned me several times back in the days when i was still new to TQ.
But i must admit that i haven't had any troubles with him in many yeas, as i know what i'm about to face, so i always show up well prepared.

Regarding the greek myths and skeletons.
I agree that skeletons might not be the first thing i think of when people mention the old greek.
But then again, there is Egypt, the ancient orient and then Hades where skeletons def belong.

The Santa claus costume is on the other hand highly debateble imo.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: sauruz on 21 July 2019, 15:16:49
Skelletons are the common foe  found in any game, because  they can fit perfectly without much myth behind. Same as  spiders

In terms of modding creatures, one of best thing about skelletons or anykind of common monster, is you can transform in something different and unique
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: undefind on 21 July 2019, 20:33:13
Toxeus the Murderer.

Showed up in the Mino maze on epic. I quickly realized after several attempts that i should just reload the game.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 21 July 2019, 21:02:56
Yeah, he's nasty and best avoided.  Medierra said in a stream back in 2013 that although he doesn't have that much health he does use all the skill slots the game allows - something like 15-20 of them. 
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: Zjapper on 22 July 2019, 03:19:14
Skelletons are the common foe  found in any game, because  they can fit perfectly without much myth behind. Same as  spiders

In terms of modding creatures, one of best thing about skelletons or anykind of common monster, is you can transform in something different and unique

True, they are indeed great allrounders.

About Toxeus random spawning, i've actually only met him 3 times outside of the secret passage in my long time playing this game.
Quickly switched to a lower dmg weapon, as his "Damage reflected" skills are the most annoying imo.

I do the same with the Titan from time to time depending on my chars current equipment/stats/skills.
Using a low lvl bow and killing him from great distance if i feel like my char is on risk of getting murdered.
Title: Re: How many times have you been killed by Toxeus?
Post by: idbeholdME on 02 March 2023, 00:12:12
Encountered him today in the Minoan Labyrinth on my level 59 pet Soothsayer in Legendary. TQ+IT. Definitely a nasty surprise. Lived through his initial burst only thanks to having 8K HP and Spirit Ward, before I realized it was Him, the dread himself :P

Nothing a bit of kiting wouldn't fix, but the main problem was that he has some form of AoE life leech. Seems it's on his fan of knives. Several times, he was nearly dead or at least below 50% health, then he cast knives, hit all my summons and insta-healed to full. He tanked through the Outsider, 3 Wolves, Liche and the Nymph that way. Ultimately had to aggro him myself so he wasn't always surrounded by the summons, which couldn't out DPS him and then, mostly my Liche with his unavoidable attack slowly wore him down while he was chasing me around, with an occasional bite from a wolf, when they could catch up to him while he was Plagued. All I did was run around without stopping, only casting Plague, Refresh, Briar Ward and Dark Covenant whenever he whiffed an attack while chasing me. Once I luckily got him locked inside a Briar Ward, it was over for him. He seems hellbent on chasing you down once aggroed so he had a lot of trouble doing anything inside the Briar Ward while also surrounded by 3 Wolves, always just trying to run at me and not fighting. In the future, I will only summon the Outsider once Toxeus is aggroed on me, should make it much easier.

Before, I only met him once on my Conqueror and he got steamrolled. Just popped Colossus and downed him nearly instantly due to his low health and the massive absorption on the Colossus form.

So my death count against him is still at zero. But encountering him as a pure caster must be an absolute pain. No idea what I'd do in that case.

He's definitely up there as far as threats in this game go. The only thing worse than him that comes to mind are the Gigantes Dactyls, who spam one hit KO wave attacks with 2 second cooldown. Any melee class that does not include Defender might as well just quit the game and reload the session :P. Not even Toxeus is that bad.
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