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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #150 on: 17 March 2018, 16:04:36 »
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uggghhh... i lost 3 toons that way... "press+shift" was slow and stepped inside and got penned in.
xmax hardcore is the only way to play this game.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #151 on: 17 March 2018, 16:16:23 »
May try and have another go with the same build idea.  It was working well up to that point, though I wasn't really meleeing much - using the bow mostly along with the pets.  But with the expansion as well that would allow me to max some skills that weren't before or maybe add one or two more.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #152 on: 18 March 2018, 06:13:59 »
Progress:
Yunah (Thane) 51 - Southern Gate
Natashya (B. Mage) 20 - Parnasus Hinterlands


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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #153 on: 18 March 2018, 08:57:40 »
Updated gasconron and well done.  :)

Is Nastahya a new toon?  Because I already have Cristina L20 Battlemage at Parnassus Hinterlands on the list for you.  Did you retire her and start again with Natashya or are you running two different Battlemages in the challenge?

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #154 on: 18 March 2018, 10:39:27 »
I am searching some information about boss damage types in act 5. To your mind Gasconrun,  is Goldtooth physical, pierce and stun ? what about the golden boar, is it like Yaoguai, mainly fire and bleeding ?

@MedeaFleecestealer; I began a new toon: a diviner, i will post Act 1 pics soon. Actually since i have heard of Xmax here, i became addicted to it  ;) , and my only toon that finished Ragnarok in legendary mode is a ritualist. I have tried the ritualist with Xmax but the pets have hard time and cannot stand. The diviner may die sooner or later but i ll keep it as a toon farmer with Xmax.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #155 on: 18 March 2018, 17:18:02 »
@MedeaFleecestealer sorry pls revise name to Natashya. Cristina is my Avenger, done with the challenge but I misreported at Reply#77, but fixed it on Reply#99. Will find old post and edit.

@Tauceti looks mostly Physical + Stun, but they d have the Poly wave attack, and iirc that has some vit-damage component in it, not sure about Goldtooth's one. Doesn't seem to be bleeding because damage taken are sudden dips (spike damage), and not heavy degen (DoT), but I don't really mod, nor use the toolbox much so I'm not exactly sure properties.

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Yunah (Thane) 53 - Walls of Utgard
Natashya (B. Mage) 20 - Parnasus Hinterlands

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #156 on: 19 March 2018, 00:56:30 »
Thanks Gasconrun, I remembered that my ritualist had problems with  Goldtooth in legendary.

Here is the beginning of Saiga, she's a new diviner, now in Rhakhotis lvl 25. This is a Ternion build and the idea is to make use of Praxidikae, as soon as possible (lvl 52 req). This vitality staff has received a good boost since Ragnarok, with his base damage X1.5 or X2.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #157 on: 19 March 2018, 07:15:10 »
Added to the leaderboard Tauceti and good luck with her.  :)  Is she twinked or are you going self found?

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #158 on: 19 March 2018, 07:36:48 »
I would also like to note that, AE:R xmax must be hell for any untwinked toon.
I didn't quite feel the difficulty playing AE:R since I simply transitioned Legendary toons that completed the game in to the new content.
However, now that I'm playing the new expansion from Level 1, even with twinked gear I'm feeling the difficulty spikes across the new content.
- Sciron Bandits were terrible
- Troll camps were annoying
- Gladsheim was pure hell
- Valholl was evil
- and without a doubt in my mind Land's End will be the embodiment of Satan...

This is me complaining with a hybrid (storm class with access to Squall)

How have you guys been faring in this challenge in AE:R (low/mid level toon)
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #159 on: 19 March 2018, 12:09:23 »
it might still be possible but you have to do your own farming.. which would be very very very long because you have to farm in normal and epic also.. and then early legendary.. the naked hardcore i think is near impossible (if not impossible) in AE:R

edit: the difficulty spike, i remember posting something like this i think at reddit

farming i have simple answer: i don't :P
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #160 on: 19 March 2018, 20:37:14 »
Saiga is twinked (AER). I wouldn't make a try untwinked because imo it would take too much time, and a pain all along the way.

Concerning difficulty spike, i really felt the difference with my ritualist between acts 4 and 5 in legendary mode. The main problem was that last act is far from being optimized. In heavily populated areas, my toon was evolving image by image (with xmax) and this is lethal when you receive tons of projectiles without the possibility to retreat properly.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #161 on: 19 March 2018, 20:46:49 »
Thanks botebote77, just started a new toon in the Naked HC. Very encouraging advice!  :o

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #162 on: 19 March 2018, 21:32:13 »
you're welcome  ;D

@gasconron i want to see some hybrids and how people go about gear optimization.. can i ask 10 mins or so of your time and post a pic on my The Theory of Hybrid thread? most items i can identify by appearance but i would appreciate it if you include highlights of the item.. check my spoiler pics in one of my comments in my thread for reference.. you have more experience than me when it comes to hybrids ^-^
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #163 on: 20 March 2018, 08:59:26 »
@botebote77 what pic exactly? like how i set up characters so that they can wear high INT/DEX/STR items?
Let me know, I'll try to provide pic when I get home from work.

@ALL: i need some inspiration on build themes for certain classes for this challenge, too lazy to theorycraft

In Progress:
Thane - INT dual wielder (cold/lightning); re-run
Battlemage INT dual wielder (fire); re-run

Planned:
Ranger - Archer + Summon Support; re-run
Warlock - DoT Melee (bleed); re-run
Ritualist - Petmancer (physical); re-run
Templar - Retaliation/Reflect Tank; re-run
Assassin - CD BS Trapper + Summon; re-run
Brigand - DoT Ranged (poison & bleed); re-run; new build
Druid - ?

Harbinger - High DPS Phy dual wield
Spellbinder - ?
Slayer - High DPS pierce melee
Summoner - ?
Prophet - CD Caster Mage
Bone Charmer - INT Archer (vita)
Spellbreaker - INT dual wielder (vita)
Champion - High HP dual wielder + Summon Support
Warden - Shield Charge + Takedown (Rush)
Oracle - High INT Ternion Mage
Magician - Elemental Conversion CD Knifer (fire)
Sorcerer - Elemental Conversion CD Knifer (lightning)
Illusionist - CD Knifer w/ Trap & Summon Support
Corsair - ?
Guardian - ?

AER: (low priority; haven't touched this class at all save for achievement hunting)
Shaman -
Skinchanger -
Trickster -
Dragon Hunter -
Thunderer - INT dual throw (lightning)
Stonespeaker - INT dual throw (fire)
Runesmith -
Berserker -
« Last Edit: 20 March 2018, 11:29:52 by gasconron »
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #164 on: 20 March 2018, 11:09:16 »
yep.. here are my sample pics i was referring to:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Spoiler for Hiden:

for build themes i have some suggestions:

druid - this really screams caster to me.. you hide in briar ward all day casting ice shards and/or lightning bolt.. briar ward sanctuary would solve your mana problems.. you have plague and squall too which stacks.. this really is beautiful to watch

summoner - i have a theorycraft but i haven't tried it yet.. a hybrid.. str to wear shields and also to boost the physical damage in eruption and VO.. SotP also boosts the physical in them.. if you have gungnir you are damn lucky.. or if you want you can make it an offshoot of the above druid.. fire attacks instead of ice shard/lightning bolt

skinchanger - I'm playing a skinchanger but i still don't know what the best playstyle would be.. but while playing it i discovered some tricks i detailed here:

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=182.msg1376#msg1376

you might find tricks you like
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