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Title: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 09:57:46
There you go, folks, it has happened! :)

I am playing a Bone Charmer, more or less following Poinas' guide from the internet, a really fun class!

I was waay too pretentious making my way up to Typhon, because the class really owned everything up until then, but i had 0 life/energy resistances and that was my doom. Brought him down on my second try by playing a bit smarter and raising my resistances, but the orb drops really sucked :/

Thought I would share this uninteresting story, sorry guys :D

*sips coffee*
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 05 April 2018, 10:24:12
at least you know how and where you died.. i played my thunderer just recently and saw he has 1 death count.. I'm in act 2 epic but i usually don't die that early.. and i really don't remember how i got that one death.. i don't drink anymore so it's probably a case of playing very tired or very sleepy.. either way i have 1 death and i don't know how and when it happened  :(
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 10:29:56
at least you know how and where you died.. i played my thunderer just recently and saw he has 1 death count.. I'm in act 2 epic but i usually don't die that early.. and i really don't remember how i got that one death.. i don't drink anymore so it's probably a case of playing very tired or very sleepy.. either way i have 1 death and i don't know how and when it happened  :(

interesting experience :D

i am way too spoiled because of PC, where i always used the defiler to remove the death penalty, among other things, not to mention i always had equipment prepared for my class, but now on console i am starting from scratch and using what drops, so i have to make the most of it :D
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 11:17:20
Just be more careful next time.  I know Poinas' Pwning with Spirit guide was nerfed in AE, but I don't know how that might affect the Bone Charmer one.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 11:23:39
Just be more careful next time.  I know Poinas' Pwning with Spirit guide was nerfed in AE, but I don't know how that might affect the Bone Charmer one.

Will do, ty :)

Decided not to try and farm typhon for better loot, but to move on to act 4 (even though it's my least favorite act) and get to epic as soon as possible :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 05 April 2018, 12:42:25
is the console version AE though? i think i read somewhere it doesn't have the boar snatcher, suggesting it's possibly TQ+IT only.. Bobinho11 can you check what circle of power says?

if it's AE i believe it's still good with resist reduction instead of harrowing.. and then later on monster lure, call of the hunt, unearthly power, and study prey spamming.. but it will need some farming.. if it's me though, i think I'll ditch strength
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 12:56:25
Doesn't make sense botebote77.  Why update the game to AE and then go back to the original unbalanced version for consoles?  Anyway I checked the order page via Game and it definitely says Anniversary Edition for the Xbox.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 13:50:03
So maybe the class wont be so powerful as before AE? ah well, i will see.

Any recommendations on another class?was planning to make a templar next, based on damage reflect :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 05 April 2018, 15:10:59
what does circle of power say first?

and if it's me, I'll try to make it good anyway with some twists of my own

don't be bound to what other people say what is good or not.. especially if you're an experienced gamer yourself :)

edit: just so it doesn't get misinterpreted, that's not a knock on you medea.. and when i said other people , that includes me  ;D
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 15:32:41
Screenie of the skill you asked about:

https://ibb.co/dBZg2H

And you are right of course, but i never tried out this class before :) but experimenting myself is the best way to learn.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 05 April 2018, 15:41:44
that's AE then.. that's good and here's hoping the bugs get fixed and ragnarok comes soon :)

my suggestions then:
monster lure but you need it maxed and you don't need it much in normal (lvl 1 is useless)
reduced resist instead of harrowing but you also don't need it in normal
get some CDR (about 65%) and you can make call of the hunt and unearthly power permanent.. herbal remedy will take some of the HP regen penalty from unearthly power.. if you get high CDR, you get big attack speed boost for ternion
maxed flush out
again, i don't think you need much strength because of monster lure
forgot to add: attack damage converted to health.. the base skill of unearthly power helps with some mana regen (forgot the name)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 15:48:51
What is CDR? and why would i need ternion? I am a bow user :)

Sorry if i sound like a noob buz i havent played this game for ages :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 05 April 2018, 15:54:11
what? lol i thought you were following Poinas pawning guide.. that's ternion.. well then if you're a bow user that's str/dex

CDR is cooldown reduction

edit: i have a bonecharmer using spear but secondary is bow.. I'll see if i can bring myself to play it again and upload a video.. maybe you'll get some ideas
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 15:57:16
Sorry for the misunderstanding...i am following a bone charmer guide but it is not by poinas but by irma:

https://www.kirmiziperfect.com/titan-quest-bone-charmer-guide/
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 16:06:41
I mentioned Poinas's guide botebote77.  I know the guide got nerfed with AE and didn't know if the same nerfs would apply playing a Bone Charmer.

I used Irma2's Bone Charmer guide when I played my a few years ago.  One of my few toons to actually finish the game.  ;D
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 16:24:22
Back in the day i finished legendary TQIM with three toons: a brigand, a warden and a prophet :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 16:52:23
I've managed 7 since 2008.  :o

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=87.0
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 19:31:55
I've managed 7 since 2008.  :o

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=87.0

Great job, medea! Which class did you have the most fun with?
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 19:57:50
Um, been a while, but I'd say probably the Magician, the Bone Charmer and Spellbinder.  The Magician was done following Fozzie's Bladeflinger guide, the Bone Charmer's Irma2's.  For the Spellbinder iirc I did him using only Radiant/Dazzling/Shining/Lustrous items - another crazy build idea.  :)  Deaths were 34, 32 and 37 respectively, but I could probably have done better if I'd kited more than I usually do. Certainly there were several times when the Magician should have kited, didn't and died as a result.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Tauceti on 05 April 2018, 20:49:15
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Deaths were 34, 32 and 37 respectively, but I could probably have done better if I'd kited more than I usually do

It depends also on the gear you had at that time. My 1st toon in vanilla TQ was a brigand and finished the game with 88 deaths  ;D
However Brigand remains the class that i love much, even if squishy.

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I did him using only Radiant/Dazzling/Shining/Lustrous items
What was the gameplay ? I can't see it
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 21:13:52
My Conquerors were my first toons to reach end of game.  The first time was when I was learning to play, the second one I ran as my pathfinder/loot getter when I got a new PC and installed the game fresh.  Both ended up with 60+ deaths - Zorn (the 2nd) had 61. Since both were first toons, they were self found, but the others I'd already got most of the gear in the Vault.

Spellbinder idea was to pile on the damage to demons iirc.  Those types of armour give strength, armour and damage to demons - changed a bit in the AE version I think looking at the stuff in the vault, but it's pretty close.  Mostly green items obviously, but had a few uniques equipped as well.  Yes, it made dealing with demons pretty easy, but some other foes took a long while to deal with.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 05 April 2018, 22:10:13
My very very first toon, from before immortal throne, was a spellbreaker (i think? Warfare and spirit) anyway, and i had no idea what i was doing, so i spent my AP evenly across all 5 stats :))) plus not to mention this was before i knew about the defiler (if it even existed back then) and my drops were so bad that by the time i got to typhon i only had one epic sword, everything else was yellow...needless to say that typhon handed my ass to me time and time again, i even think back then those statues around him made him impossible for me to beat ;D so my toon got deleted, ah well, live and learn :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 05 April 2018, 22:18:12
Yeah, I never encountered those since, although I started off in Titan Quest, I finally read the manual/instructions and realised that Immortal Throne was TQ plus the add-on and not something completely separate so I imported my toons into IT long before I got that far into the game.  I do remember jumping out of my chair and dancing around the room when I did finally bring Typhon down for the first time.  :))
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 06 April 2018, 10:13:32
Um, been a while, but I'd say probably the Magician, the Bone Charmer and Spellbinder.  The Magician was done following Fozzie's Bladeflinger guide, the Bone Charmer's Irma2's.  For the Spellbinder iirc I did him using only Radiant/Dazzling/Shining/Lustrous items - another crazy build idea.  :)  Deaths were 34, 32 and 37 respectively, but I could probably have done better if I'd kited more than I usually do. Certainly there were several times when the Magician should have kited, didn't and died as a result.

mind sharing the link for that bladeflinger guide, please? :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 06 April 2018, 10:41:28
Here you go.  :)

https://www.kirmiziperfect.com/titan-quest-the-bladeflinger-magician-guide/
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 06 April 2018, 10:58:50
Thanks!

Oh, i already see this being a problem..the guide says the class is heavily gear dependent :/ and it's a caster! 😢
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 06 April 2018, 11:10:26
Yes, it is and of course some of the gear may have changed in AE.  It's a knife spammer hence the name Bladeflinger.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 06 April 2018, 11:13:17
Unfortunately i dont have any gear yet...perhaps i should make a 'safe' toon like the conqueror but it sounds like a boring class.

Also, never tried a caster before and am still reluctant to try one..dont know why though, i guess i just like a melee approach or a bow :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 06 April 2018, 11:37:28
Yeah, I get it.  I had most of the gear in my Vault collection when I played it so that wasn't a problem for me.

I went with Conqueror first because when I was learning I wanted what looked like the strongest class to me.  And though I love Defense as a mastery, most of my toons are petmancers, casters or bow users. I do have some melee ones, but somehow just don't enjoy them as much as attacking from range.  You could try a Slayer (Hunting/Warfare) or Warden (Hunting/Defense) and that way you get the best of both: ranged for attack and melee if you need close up.  A lot of my melee toons end up using a bow a lot of the time anyway, even if I don't have Hunting as one of the masteries.  My Guardian who I played through into Act 4 Epic in Xmax HC challenge used a bow almost exclusively.
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 06 April 2018, 11:44:37
Yeah, defense and hunting are my favorite masteries, but i was hoping of trying something other than hunting for my second toon as i already have a bone charmer...ah, decisions decisions :))

Thanks medea!
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 06 April 2018, 12:55:55
hey hey hey you're talking knifethrower my favourite.. i have a guide and i included how it can be played self-found

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=20.0

and i have a video somewhere here:

https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=213.0

that's where i put my videos and that's where I'll include my bonecharmer video :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 06 April 2018, 13:01:58
what would be a viable second mastery if i wanted to make make a melee knife thrower? :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 06 April 2018, 13:07:30
warfare.. i also have a video.. but i think i botched my stat distribution.. i should've invested in int as well.. also nature.. an easier build to make

ok gotta go :)
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: botebote77 on 06 April 2018, 16:27:12
actually, my sorcerer is my 2nd one.. the 1st one i accidentally deleted lolz.. my 1st sorcerer was self-found.. it was somewhere act 1 legendary when i accidentally deleted it iirc

my nephew's prophet, this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/TitanQuestAE/comments/77gztd/mage_prophet/
was also self-found.. so i really don't understand when other people say casters are not to be played self-found.. it's only mid to late game when you would need some good gear, same as melee.. but at that time you should have done some self farming already.. clearly those who say that just don't like casters, are too biased that they choose to judge before they even try, or just not that acclimated to the game yet.. actually, casters are very easy to start.. you just need lots of mana pots
Title: Re: First death on console!
Post by: Bobinho11 on 06 April 2018, 22:52:01
I think i will try a melee illusionist, but i think plague is bugged on xbox :/
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