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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #660 on: 29 October 2021, 06:48:31 »
Huh, very strange stormyboy.  I can sort of see including the bugfix one, even though it's not official, but why include Xmax?

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #661 on: 02 November 2021, 12:23:20 »
Stormyboy - Myxir - L71 Summoner AEAR (no potions/untwink) - Throne room

https://imgur.com/2i5xXeZ (hades)
https://imgur.com/X4cYAPh
https://imgur.com/rEhcgTA
https://imgur.com/8iydRkw

And, now that i got to a higher level i can answer a question that bothered me for a long time (especially when playing the xmax challenge): is the helmet with bonus to experience + crystal of erebus 8% bonus experience a good choice? You are sacrificing some stats, % damage, health, skillpoints etc. But, aren't levels powerful than stats?

Answer: No, the difference is insignificant. Here you have the photo evidence of it.
My former hunter at the end of the hades (epic). He used +12% experience since the days of sparta (level 8 or so) and added a crystal on the helmet with bonus experience at the end of hades normal.
Total experience: 108530613, Level 72 (almost 73 with a bar missing).
https://imgur.com/GtTQu1n - hades kill character screenshot - epic bonus exp 20%
https://imgur.com/TSuae5w - total experience - epic - bonus exp 20%

My current character, never used a bonus experience item. He only used +% stats helmets and hollowed helmets. By the same point, Myxir got 99382116 experience, level 71 (and a bar)
https://imgur.com/2i5xXeZ - hades kill character screenshot - no bonus exp
https://imgur.com/X4cYAPh - total experience - no bonus exp

Between the characters, the difference is of 9.000.000 experience or, at the rate i got experience on this character, about half of immortal throne act on epic. As for time played, the difference between the 2 characters is of 7.190 seconds (about 2 hours), the no bonus exp character having more time played. The time difference is irrelevant because every time i am taking dinner or go out i let my characters logged in.

Let's take a look at another point in time, a point where my character used only the 12% helmet exp

https://imgur.com/TuA4hlx - character screenshot hades kill, no bonus exp -normal
https://imgur.com/7tHehJ2 - character screenshot hades kill, bonus exp 12% - normal

At low levels, the luck our character has with hero monsters spawning weights in more than the bonus experience we use on the items. We can see that best on my 2 characters, compared side by side, where the character with bonus exp has lower level than the character with no bonus

So, for my character, 20% bonus experience accounts for about 2 - 4 hours of play

I think i will make a sepparate post somewhere around the forum. I don't think i found a comparison like this anywhere around the internet.
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #662 on: 03 November 2021, 08:02:13 »
Don't think I've seen anything either stormyboy so yes, make a separate thread about it.  Maybe some others have found out about it and just not mentioned it.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #663 on: 19 November 2021, 09:55:21 »
And finally, i am going red. So guys, if you want to do the challenge as a pet character remember this: the only hard part you have to get through is the normal difficulty. In normal the monsters in the temple of the last ragnarok boss gave me a lot of trouble; especially the fire throwing demons. But in epic my pets were tackling packs of demons with no problems. Maybe the elemental resistance from hearth of oak helped them more than i want to admit, who knows.

As for armor, i found 2 perfect pieces of armor (chest +legs) tho i have to admit, i miss having the versatility of green gear + relics/charms.  Also, i have created the summoner totem relic which gives me a bit more in the way of character power, i still don't know if 200hp +10% total speed is better than 18 dmg+5% phys dmg. I still switch both relics around trying to figure it out.

Stormyboy - Myxir - L74 Summoner AEAR (no potions/untwink) - Helos woods

https://imgur.com/Vcoi8Ui (death/potions count)
https://imgur.com/TzjyO2u (first legendary boss
https://imgur.com/OLpQYZz (last ragnarok boss)
https://imgur.com/apPgkDi
https://imgur.com/m1UIBr9
https://imgur.com/qDO2kME
https://imgur.com/74JJa0Q
https://imgur.com/CcUk6kh
https://imgur.com/Cc7Tu4k
https://imgur.com/XL81u9s
https://imgur.com/hNtvgMW
https://imgur.com/LDyUsPX
https://imgur.com/7JUW6NI
https://imgur.com/KOmRnjM
https://imgur.com/oiF49rQ
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #664 on: 19 November 2021, 10:10:36 »
Well done stormyboy.  That takes you to the top of the leaderboard.   :)

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #665 on: 25 November 2021, 21:48:33 »
For now, i got to kill the manticore. I pulled all 3 of them by mistake and i have to say, earth elemental with fire shield gets immortal.
Oh and i got a new relic, the conquerors mark. Unfortunately it rolled with 40% poison resist and that is added to my alrdy 50% (so i have 10% to spare). I would have preferred the piercing resist but well...i am out of materials to try again.

Stormyboy - Myxir - L76 Summoner AEAR (no potions/untwink) - Sandswept cave

https://imgur.com/4SI1qPL (death/potions)
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #666 on: 26 November 2021, 12:26:56 »
That name, Myxir... You took it from Gothic, right?

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #667 on: 26 November 2021, 22:29:24 »
Yes i did :D. The name of a water mage. Gothic 1 and 2 are my 2 favorite games. For me, no game has a story as good as Gothic. In all games you are the big hero, the chosen, the big god of the world. But gothic, in gothic you are nobody. You don't even know about the bad things happening in the world. You just want out of the barier. And while being nobody and trying to fit in you just make things happen. Perfect story telling.

Risen 1 also captures a bit of the perfect story telling from gothic (a game created by the same dudes).

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #668 on: Today at 17:14:42 »
Couldn't agree more... They are my all time favorite games too, the first two Gothic games and also Risen is up there as well, even if it's not quite as good. I also often borrow names from Gothic, i had a few Xardas and Riordian characters in TQ over the years.  :D

PS: Sorry for the slight off-topic here.

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