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Title: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 12 February 2019, 00:07:50
Some of us have reported bugs here and there. Since a new patch is under development, a thread gathering bug reports may be useful (with the hope that TQ devs read this forum).
I will update the list as soon as you feed it.

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Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: botebote77 on 12 February 2019, 01:21:56
what's the one @icefreeze mentioned before? and the one i mentioned:

fafnir's teeth - bone splinters does..... nothing

dvalinns simulacrum - also what did icefreeze say here? something like let it die, teleport to town, then go back to it's corpse?

long time ago i noticed if you let it die somewhere in the cave of manticore.. then soon after get yourself to die, when you get back to it's corpse it drops some of your items.. weird eh.. maybe a simple town portal will do

the uhhh the act 5 MI item that grants reflect damage.. it doesn't drop in legendary (edit: on 2nd thought, maybe it's not intended not to drop because 500% reflect damage is maybe unfair to bosses?)

boots of valkyrie - bonus of normal version is higher than legendary's

and then there is a bug in user botebote - why is he so noob in grim dawn?

and if devs indeed read this: dear devs, we want TQ2.. many thnx

more edit: elemental reaver - is it really just like that?

the sword in the stone and hati still don't drop
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: icefreeze on 12 February 2019, 05:22:33
There is many Invisible Blocked object in the road down from mountain( or up) like the road run to Surtr place, projectile can go through it even it don't have any blocked, bug hitbox?
There are some texture bugs of some items, i don't remember clearly the name of it, and some Activated skill on Attack of some weapons don't work.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 12 February 2019, 08:55:33
Thread link passed on, hopefully the devs will keep an eye on what's reported and get them fixed.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 12 February 2019, 10:49:34
Just found another one. Feiyan's missing though she's shown on the min-map.

(https://i.imgur.com/nckzgVP.jpg)

Hope this doesn't stop my progress eventually.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: sauruz on 12 February 2019, 11:10:13
Theres one bug on Giesel quest reward.

Before completing the quest, it says you get a relic reward. But when you complete you just get gold and exp


Missing place name in mini map, after relog
(https://i.imgur.com/FXPThXE.jpg)


Also Endymion listed several bugs as well
https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=758.0
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: WNG on 12 February 2019, 11:11:46
Bear rider MIs have no bonus whatsoever.

Wild Hunt has a blank Grants Skill.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57
Post by: Medea Fleecestealer on 12 February 2019, 11:43:21
Best if these are reported in the new bug reports section on the TQF discord channel. 

https://discordapp.com/invite/fgveay9

Zyddie's able to pick them up there more easily and quickly and pass them on to the devs.

Okay, I've copied all of the above bugs over to the discord bug report channel.  Please make further reports there so Zyddie can pick them up.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 12 February 2019, 21:07:01
Thanks Medea, it will be great if they can take into account all these reports  ;)

Maybe we can close this thread so that new reports go on discord thread ?
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: sauruz on 12 February 2019, 21:44:12
The thread can stay open, some people may have issues going to discord.

any new reports can be easly be copy into discord, np.

Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 12 February 2019, 22:51:33
Ok, so i updated the list from here and from discord thread.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 14 February 2019, 00:34:12
Not sure if it should be counted as bug or typo but very weird IMO :

- in Ragnarök, all "normal" (I mean not MI nor uniques) melee armor items have nearly the same Str requirements and armor values, for the heavy ones and the light ones. There are the classical light names and design, clearly different to the heavy ones but armor and requirements are not different. In the TQ Vanilla and IT, there were allways light armor items, not only in design and name, but in req and armor rating. There was a huge gap between the two types of gear. It gave more variety in builds and management for atributes points. Especialy for Dex-based characters (or hybrids). What is the sense of those light items if it is only cosmetic ? I would like to find really light normal stuff by marchants and by loot (for the ones that have rare end-game affixes), not only stuff with 640+ Str req (like Sciron's, tritons' or trolls' gear for MI).

The stuff is already here but stats are nonsense.

- Ragnarök MI shields have weapon affixes, not shield ones.

- ALL (you can check : all) the MI, epic and legendary Ragnarök shields deal  burn damage ! Wtf ? Is it a bug or a feature ? (Don't forget that damage on shield is effective only with Defense shield attacks : do all Defense char necessarily need to deal burn damage, scaling with Int, by all means ?).

Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 14 February 2019, 01:11:23
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- Ragnarök MI shields have weapon affixes, not shield ones.
There was a discussion about this feature:  https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=794.0 (https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=794.0)

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ALL (you can check : all) the MI, epic and legendary Ragnarök shields deal  burn damage ! Wtf ? Is it a bug or a feature ? (Don't forget that damage on shield is effective only with Defense shield attacks : do all Defense char necessarily need to deal burn damage, scaling with Int, by all means ?).

Actually if i remember well, flat damage on shield is transfered to weapon even if you are not a defender. But a resistance debuff has to be landed first by a shield attack. Therefore only a defender can make a good use of a shield of the betrayer.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 14 February 2019, 02:16:55
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Actually if i remember well, flat damage on shield is transfered to weapon even if you are not a defender.

No, it is easy to test. Equip a Ragnarok shield with a defender : you will see the burn effect only when it is a shield attack, never with a classic one. And with a non defender, you will never see the effect. Flat damage, debuffs and crowd-control effects on Shields all need Defense for the shield attack skills, without it they are ineffective.


Only the retaliation damage bonuses can be effective without Defense.

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There was a discussion about this feature

Actually, I agree that some MI Shields with good weapon affixes can be usefull. But it is still very hard to say that it is not a typo but an intentional feature… And then, if this weapon affixe grants flat damage or debuff or crowd-control (which is very, very frequent with weapon affixes), it will be useless without Defense shield attack skills… For me it is evident that it this an error, like some many others in the game.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: botebote77 on 14 February 2019, 03:50:53
Actually if i remember well, flat damage on shield is transfered to weapon even if you are not a defender.
i remember reading this here:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148217054

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Unlike dualwielding, where flat modifiers from one weapon to another does not transfer, this was reported to be different for a shield. If you have a shield with +damage, it is applied to both weapon and shield. 

a few months ago i tested this and as i remember, the results say otherwise.. meaning flat damage from shield did not add to weapon

but i don't remember how i tested it.. so i retested again.. this time with svalinn (burn and frostburn).. the flat damage is high enough to be noticeable but to make it more noticeable, i tested with a shitty starter weapon.. i used my summoner then took back all the skill points from volatility so there are no damage spikes.. the DPS on char sheet and dummy test doesn't show additional damage

(https://titanquestfans.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKbimisz.jpg&hash=b2d105c924cc0b5accfd14e33a74dc6cf3feecee)
(https://titanquestfans.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOkYCfXj.jpg&hash=d03b27346ca1940e86b1b9e5a78878b10a286fb9)

dummy test with and without svalinn

(https://titanquestfans.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcMpLfsi.jpg&hash=5bfdb273afdbdabeaf03f2cbe32893363ebdb7a8)
(https://titanquestfans.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeMFVpo4.jpg&hash=f6ace01dcd65d7bf322bcea4f678c1f299cbf1e7)

i also wanted to test with shield of the shades (vit) and deathweavers (pierce) but wet TQcollector says i don't have any

so.... i don't know.. maybe there was confusion.. or maybe it was wrong in the first place.. or maybe it was changed in one of the updates
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: botebote77 on 14 February 2019, 05:20:46
and it turns out... bonus damage from shield also doesn't add to weapon (athenas mirrored shield)

(https://i.imgur.com/3T15So6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/F8o6B4i.jpg)

dummy test with and without shield
(https://i.imgur.com/JTnxzpi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d7AYeo9.jpg)
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 14 February 2019, 12:08:20
Yes, shield flat damage or CC or DoT or debuffs on shields do not apply to weapon nor to any attack but Defense shield attacks. It is true since Vanilla (I remember that I have already tested it 11 years ago when I played Jagged hoplon with my first toon or later for spiny shell charms) and it had never changed. The Steam link was a mistake.

With burn DoT the particle effect is very easy to see and to track. The same with poison on Shield of the cobra or freeze on Frozen Shield (freeze is a little bit noticeable when it procs…  O:-) ).

The only damage on shield that apply without a shield attack are +X% and retaliations.


And that's the Reason why those burn damage on all Ragnarök Shields or weapon affixes on act 5 Mi shields do not seem accurate at all.


Not to speak about rare affixes, do you prefer  good chance to find +resistance yellow affixes on the MI shields you're farming, or good chance to find flat damage or slow or armor debuff, all useless but for a defender ?
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 14 February 2019, 19:49:07
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i remember reading this here:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=148217054
Thanks Bote, i couldn't find yesterday the source  ;)

And your test with Athena's shield is clear (or with particle effect mentioned by Alcyon): flat damage on shield is only useful for a defender. Good to know !

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For me it is evident that it this an error, like some many others in the game.
If you think that all you mentioned are bugs and not features, i encourage you to feed the discord thread, so that i can update the list here.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 14 February 2019, 21:34:35
bug reported about the Wodan's set:

first here a pic with the char naked for reference stats:
(https://i.imgur.com/azt4bLe.jpg)

Now a 2nd pic with 3 pieces of wodan set:
(https://i.imgur.com/2NONdgY.jpg)
all is ok up to now in bonus set

And finally a 3rth pic when checkin the combined armor value:
(https://i.imgur.com/OzFJhb0.jpg)

bonus armor is not taken into account, whereas intelligence bonus is ok
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 15 February 2019, 02:33:10
If you think that all you mentioned are bugs and not features, i encourage you to feed the discord thread, so that i can update the list here.

Done.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 15 February 2019, 12:34:20
Typos in french localization : the tooltips for Donar's might and Yen Lo Wang's relics says "enchante toutes les armures", which means "enhance all armor". It is false and should be "enchante toutes les armes" ("enhance all weapons").
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 15 February 2019, 12:38:27
list updated
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 15 February 2019, 14:58:06
- Some rare affixes with OA bonuses still roll on ranged weapons (which is useless) : I found “murderous” and “Veteran’s”on bows an throwing weapons, “treacherous” on bows and “of the betrayer” on bows and staves for example.
- Outrider’s Tunic and Skullcap (MI) have Str and Dex requirements on normal but Str only on epic and legendary.
- Karra’s Stirrer and Staff of Njord (epic staves) grant skills don't work.
- There is a little glitch at the door between Gladsheim and Vallhöll, near the Asgard portal. When we go out or in, it frequently causes a kind of rubberbanding effect, quite annoying in a town where we can often go for merchants, caravan and so on.
- After the fight against gods in Asgard, if you don’t speak immediately with Wodan (and prefer going to chests, or marchants, or other NPC…), Wodan and Loki disappear after a while and you can’t speak to them yet in the fight room. You can still continue the main quest but this step can’t be completed in the quest log and remains uncompleted.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Bumbleguppy on 16 February 2019, 01:51:30


- ALL (you can check : all) the MI, epic and legendary Ragnarök shields deal  burn damage ! Wtf ? Is it a bug or a feature ? (Don't forget that damage on shield is effective only with Defense shield attacks : do all Defense char necessarily need to deal burn damage, scaling with Int, by all means ?).


Can verify :

(https://i.imgur.com/oq5wHAq.png)
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 16 February 2019, 09:01:21
Thanks and so for blues and purples of Ragnarök.
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 16 February 2019, 12:14:45
From Aminef who is not here (Endymion's thread):
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I think the reckless offense on Einherjars fate bug. I made a test character with only this weapon, used the cheat engine script to display all damages and tested on the targets in spartan camp. My average critical damage were at 450. 4% to do +100% total damage will be clearly noticed. But nothing. I tested this becaus reckless offense in rune mastery only work while dual wielding. Here reckelss offense doesnt enable dual wielding, but neither seems to work with one weapon.

Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: Tauceti on 19 February 2019, 19:30:43
Corselet of Freyja (+100% DA) and Giant's Tooth (+80% str, +40% physical dmg), compared to other items of same level, are OP.

A mage wearing Freyja' set gets 2.5 k DA with Persephone's rings, and with Coronal of the abyss, 3k DA.

(https://i.imgur.com/L7eTRbJ.png)
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: botebote77 on 19 February 2019, 19:50:37
giants tooth has been mentioned already.. and corselet of freyja, i told you  :P

it's the best chest armor by far that even hybrid stat physical melees will do good with it.. i bet with 3k DA legendary Dragonian lancers will barely touch you.. can you test? there's some just on the entrance on wusao cave
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: sauruz on 19 February 2019, 20:12:30
I hope they try to balance Ragnarok itens a bit and do something with throw weapons drop rates >.<
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 19 February 2019, 20:21:32
giants tooth has been mentioned already.. and corselet of freyja, i told you  :P

it's the best chest armor by far that even hybrid stat physical melees will do good with it.. i bet with 3k DA legendary Dragonian lancers will barely touch you.. can you test? there's some just on the entrance on wusao cave

With 3000 DA you esquive 80% from their hits in TQR and get 1 hit on 5. Esquive from DA is caped at 80% too, not only the dodging capacity from items and warfare skill which is a different mechanic, as already explained with the table here : https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=889.msg10050#new (https://titanquestfans.net/index.php?topic=889.msg10050#new).
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: botebote77 on 19 February 2019, 20:51:26
i take it esquive mean dodge? but DA, if so much above enemy OA, if I'm not mistaken also reduces damage.. anyway i speak from tests as I'm not a fan of these number crunchings

i tested with prophet before with 2k DA and xmax x3 and i can stand in the middle of them.. if i don't attack, i have to drink health pots but not much.. if i attack, they die within seconds.. that's with corselet of freyja with 2k DA
Title: Re: List of identified bugs - TQ AER v1.57: Bug Report channel on TQF Discord pls
Post by: AlcyonV on 19 February 2019, 21:02:14
Damages are reduced by a 0.55 coefficient (45%) with the corselet and such a DA difference with their OA (fourth column in the table)
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