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Ok I really.....really don't know what else I can do.

using lots of summons for all my damage doesn't work......
tried using a normal caster build, that's even worse.....
I'm getting gear people tell me to get....

Maybe mage types aren't for me.....
I dunno....

I just don't know what to do anymore.
I think this game is only built for people who are already good or something because this is just getting silly.

Storm+Dream maybe......there are pets but you don't rely on them....
Storm+Rogue, sounds like fun to use the knives+magic
I dunno...

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Looks like I'll just have to not go for lots of summons, the original devs forgot about them and forgot to balance them a bit.
So out go all those point in pet skills and I'm guessing into lightning bolt or something. I'm probably still going to have problems with Hades though.

I don't really know how I'm going to deal with groups of enemies either.

Edit: Nevermind, tried a caster build.
dying to basic enemies now, nothing gives me a chance to set anything off without losing almost all my health.

This is ridiculous.

Do you have to have absolutely perfect gear and build and stuff to even have a chance?

So trying a different build and gameplay style doesn't work.
Getting the gear people tell me to get doesn't work (I'm not knocking the advice, my lack of skill is stopping it from being effective)
Now you can see why I try so many different builds and mastery combos. There has to be at least one mastery combo and build that is right for me, there just has to be.

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and here it goes.
Claims I'm a troll.....

Yeah, I get it, I'm a shitty person.
No skill in anything, even things I like, no redeemable qualities, good personality traits, nothing....
I get it, nobody can be that awful so troll right?

also I guess the advice I did take didn't count since I'm not automatically better.

I'm sick of it but what can I do right?
Except for just suddenly being better, I guess I'll always be considered a troll.

It's like it's inevitable that no matter what I do, this will happen.
I can be positive all I want before I enter a community, means nothing in the end.

Can't even ask what the easiest mastery combo is because there isn't one except for personally.


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It also doesn't help that I attract the attention of all the enemies at once, whether with pets or with my or skills.
and if I move in and try to get the attention of one, I'm too close anyway since I need to be far away to attack.

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I still don't even get why it's there.
Purple name like a quest monster but just seemingly there by random for no apparent reason.

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This was my 3rd attempt I think.
Also didn't get to a checkpoint/regen shrine/whateveritscalled so I have to do a lot of the place again.

Barely made it out alive after doing the machae generals quest, so many almost one-shot deaths.....

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I'm just going by what I see on your vid.....

It's hard to even know if I'm picking the right masteries or what.
Are casters even a good idea for me?

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Looking at your vid, it's probably helping that you barely lose health.
You also didn't appear to be affected by his stun......at least from what I can see.

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I just feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall trying to get through the first DLC. It just feels like, if I'm resorting to doing that, I'm doing it seriously wrong and it's not going to really help.
Like, just struggling with the bare minimum and just brute forcing my way through stuff with the worst efficiency ever. Sure I'm getting through it right now but that doesn't mean I can continue and still have it work.
I have no idea what'll happen with the second dlc.

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I do actually play Grim Dawn.
Not lately though. Kinda just play certain games, whatever I feel like. Sometimes I'll go back to those I haven't played in a while.

Honestly everyone tells me the game isn't for me when I can't do it for every game I play.
Even those I've played a hell of a lot of.

I just don't understand why this game is so hard, I haven't even hit Epic yet.

I have managed to find the masteries I enjoy the most though.
Conqueror
Berserker
Druid.
It's hitting Olympus (mostly the cyclops and typhon) where things go downhill.

I think I'm just sick of playing games I like (well...I would say I don't play games I don't like but then I haven't gotten to this point yet, every game I get, I like) and hitting a wall and not being allowed to see the rest of the game.

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Cannot get through normal Hades palace at all.
Pets die to everything, Dactyl is always around the corner.

I don't understand how anyone can beat this game at all.
The difficulty is absolutely insane.

and yes, I am getting gear I need from merchants.
I even found a hallowed headpiece so I can always have a 3rd wolf.
But it's not enough, even with three wolves, the nymph, the wisp, plague and squall, everything takes too long to take down. Enough time for debuffs to run out and maybe even kill a pet and almost kill me. I never get the chance to reapply debuffs without something almost killing me and that goes for madly trying to heal pets.

What is this game.....this is masochism.

Ragnarok....money well spent...

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It would certainly be interesting to be a sorta sword and shield mage.
I guess different things are always interesting to me.

I usually stick a single point in each skill as I unlock them and climb the mastery so I can unlock the other skills asap.
Or should I at least max feather and rune weapon? Also when should I start on the earth mastery? Should I put in a few points to at least get the base earth enchant skill as soon as I unlock a 2nd mastery?

I'm guessing with the heat shield, stone form and actual shield plus absorb, this build would be quite tanky.
Although with large groups I'd probably seperate a lot of the targets to make it easier.

Also yes no full guides for it but I did find this video.


The skill point allocation is similar to what you suggested although not entirely the same.

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Do you know a build I could take a look at?

Also rune of life seems like it could help with strength requirements too along with feather.

Honestly whenever someone mentions a build and talks about it, it always makes me want to try it.
Always seems interesting.

Sword and shield too.....hmm....

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Think part of the problem with doing a hybrid for me is figuring out how to build it.
Like the attribute points.

Playing an int. based caster type? Put all into Int. and rarely into Dex. if needed
Conqueror? 2 points into Str. one level and 1 point into Str. and 1 point into Dex. the next level and alternate between the two.

A hybrid would be all over the place and you only get so many points (and it gets harder and harder to get them the longer it takes to level up)

and then there's what bonuses you need to look for in gear.

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Deeblue i will be breaking my promise of not posting in your thread anymore.. I'm mad at myself
Then why? You aren't obligated to do so. I don't mean it like I don't want help or answers or in a "You don't want to be here so get out you aren't welcome" kind of way, I just mean you clearly don't want to, so you shouldn't have to.
I get it, I'm not wanted here and all I had to do was exist, all I had to do was register, didn't have to do anything to cause this but be myself. I guess I'm just desperate to see more of the game like I am with any game I ever play and since I was in the old forum and I've just started AE, this would be the best time to start a thread to talk about all the new stuff, ask about stuff, that sorta thing.

but i did start this game as a self-found caster.. and i did finish the game albeit with some deaths but that should be expected from a new player
So you figured out pretty early what suits you best, I can imagine everyone did this as well. Obviously this would make things a hell of a lot easier.
I still can't, I can't figure out what suits me because I like everything and I don't even know what my playstyle is, if I even have one.

After playing the game so much and playing pretty much every mastery in one combo or another, I do have an idea what few mastery combos I like best though.
But I don't know which one works best for me. The one for me.


to know which types are hardest to play, you should try the different types yourself
I think I've tried every mastery possible at this point, I've played this game a hell of a lot to the point where some people think I'm only playing this game and asking if I actually like anything else...

have you ever started as an icesharder? an earth auramancer? a distortion wave dream caster?
That's getting very, very specific.
I'd just look at builds and see what looks like fun and try it.
Having no idea if the build I'm trying is a good one or not.

but as I've said before if you know what you're doing it will not wane
Oh......I mean.....I have the very basics down but reading through threads here (as well as in the old forum), I'd see posts where I have no idea what anyone's talking about because, as far as I'm concerned, it's all super advanced stuff.

to answer your question: the hardest to play are hybrids imo.. those not specializing on the fighter part nor mage part, but attempts to balance both worlds
Yeah I'd figure those would be hard. At least I've never had the nerve to try them.
Might have tried a sword and shield juggernaut at one point but not for long.

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