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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #675 on: 18 December 2021, 12:36:30 »
So, i couldn't wait to kill the boss after Atlantis so i just went in and boom. I will still complete Atlantis but at least now i won't be stressed out because of dying (tho i would prefer to complete that deathless as well).

Next, i am planning to buy eternal embers and finish the game on xmax eternal embers deathless. Maybe i will play with potions to try out the new mastery.

Oh and i have a minor problem. I got the steam achievement for finishing hardcore legendary but i didn't got the one for finishing with an earth character/nature character. Is that achievement only if you finish as a one mastery class?

Stormyboy - Myxir - L80 Summoner AEAR (no potions/untwink) - Eldr fields

https://imgur.com/0G2noGc (potions count)
https://imgur.com/lLcaxKN (character screen)
https://imgur.com/OUZb0C1 (the end)
https://imgur.com/oI5TqhR (secret passage leg)
https://imgur.com/Psg1Ium (secret passage epic
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #676 on: 18 December 2021, 12:43:47 »
Devs are working their way through the various bug reports now that Eternal Embers is out.  Publicbeta has the fixes for Atlantis/Eternal Embers drop rate in it.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/475150/discussions/0/3195864877892776241/

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #677 on: 18 December 2021, 12:48:01 »
So, i couldn't wait to kill the boss after Atlantis so i just went in and boom. I will still complete Atlantis but at least now i won't be stressed out because of dying (tho i would prefer to complete that deathless as well).

Next, i am planning to buy eternal embers and finish the game on xmax eternal embers deathless. Maybe i will play with potions to try out the new mastery.

Oh and i have a minor problem. I got the steam achievement for finishing hardcore legendary but i didn't got the one for finishing with an earth character/nature character. Is that achievement only if you finish as a one mastery class?


Stormyboy - Myxir - L80 Summoner AEAR (no potions/untwink) - Eldr fields

https://imgur.com/0G2noGc (potions count)
https://imgur.com/lLcaxKN (character screen)
https://imgur.com/OUZb0C1 (the end)
https://imgur.com/oI5TqhR (secret passage leg)
https://imgur.com/Psg1Ium (secret passage epic
https://imgur.com/AXtbjry
https://imgur.com/zEmIagW
https://imgur.com/7Fb8viL
https://imgur.com/ovcEnbs
https://imgur.com/YtHEt3c
https://imgur.com/wODdS0M
https://imgur.com/gVCTD2Y
https://imgur.com/Zz1Y3xa
https://imgur.com/LGrZzAW
https://imgur.com/2S0yimA
https://imgur.com/3un63PL
https://imgur.com/TXnidxl
https://imgur.com/wk75pXY
https://imgur.com/EL0pkg7

Edit: I got the achievements. Just had to hit the boss once because, tehnically , i didn't beat the last boss. My pets did. So, if you ever play a pet character and don't get a boss kill achievement, go back and hit it once.

https://imgur.com/vzPHot9
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #678 on: 19 December 2021, 14:13:28 »
Btw...i think i have updated the entry for Myxir wrong. I think it should look like this now:

Stormyboy - Myxir - L80 Summoner AEAR (no potions/untwink): Final kill count 50.208 (Petmancer)

Now, my next one iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis:

Stormyboy - Myxir - L5 Seer AEAR (untwink) - Helos woods

https://imgur.com/aOisx7m
https://imgur.com/JIUhcNU

I have never played casters in xmax hardcore so i am a bit affraid. That is why i will be using potions. My goal with this character is to play with psionic beam staff. Also, i want to finish normal as dream to get the achievement. And i need to think hard about my second mastery. at a first glance storm would be perfect for squall, energy shield, the wisp buff etc. Bottom line, it can't be nature/earth because i also want achievements for finishing legendary with every mastery out there

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #679 on: 19 December 2021, 19:40:23 »
Same name for the character? 

And is the Summoner finished completely?  If so I'll move him to the TitanSlayers.
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #680 on: 19 December 2021, 20:34:56 »
Same name for the character? 

And is the Summoner finished completely?  If so I'll move him to the TitanSlayers.

The name of the character is NoX. I forgot to change :D.

As for the summoner, i haven't completed Atlantis on legendary. But to be honest, i don't feel like it if the challenge can be ended like this. But, if i do need to finish Atlantis, i will hop back on.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #681 on: 19 December 2021, 20:50:07 »
Difficult to say really since it's an optional expansion as is the new Eternal Embers.  I think for the moment I'd say they're not required to be done for this challenge.  If people want to fine.  Ragnarok is different since if you have it installed you've got to do it before you can change difficulty, but that's not the case with Atlantis. 

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #682 on: 10 May 2022, 08:58:07 »
Hello! After a bit of elden ring and a bit of elex, let's go back to the basics (especially now that a new patch is out). This time i will do a hunter only in normal (mostly to get the achievement) and then i will go with a mastery that will make me overpowered. Why? Because i want, at all times, to have at least one of the cursed shrines active. At the moment of posting i have played with 2 curses on since level 1.

@MedeaFleecestealer , i think with this update, we should add something to show that the character is going cursed. Like "Stormyboy - Spasm - L19 Hunter AEEE (untwink,cursed) - City of Delphi". Also, i wrote AEARE because i am playing with all expansions active.

Stormyboy - Spasm - L19 Hunter AEARE (untwink) - City of Delphi
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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #683 on: 10 May 2022, 09:08:29 »
Yes, that's a good idea stormyboy.  :) Those players who want to make it even harder by getting curses should show that they've done so, so that we know. Gawd, yes, I need to add Embers to the list as well. 

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #684 on: 12 May 2022, 10:13:35 »
Stormyboy - Spasm - L26 Hunter AEARE (untwink,cursed) - City of Rhakotis

https://imgur.com/undefined
https://imgur.com/aB3PHcH
https://imgur.com/jejZbyx
https://imgur.com/hLH5lsD
https://imgur.com/kVtwFir

Here we go. Act one finished.

As for numbers (because i like doing this in games), with 2 curses active i got around 47000 electrum (Act1 normal). So, 23500 electrum with one curse active. This translates to (with minimum effort-1 curse) ~2 normal item orbs. 
IF we go for maximum effort and risk (8 curses), we get in act 1 normal 94000=~8 normal item orbs.
(all done with 0 farming)
I will do this kinda of summary at the end of every act just to have all the numbers  written down for a forum post at the end of my run. Maybe someone will find it useful, who knows.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #685 on: 21 May 2022, 14:55:39 »
Which Xmax mod should we use or include as extra for this challenge?  The Xmax base on Steam workshop hasn't been updated since 2016 while there are a couple of newer ones, but they include things like the bugfix mod and Loot Plus.  They also increase bosses to x5 rather than x3. 

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #686 on: 22 May 2022, 08:56:52 »
For me, the 2016 one is still the best. It's the only one where all quests work fine.  On my summoner i have finished all 3 acts (Atlantis and Eternal Embers included) and everything was fine. The character i am currently playing is on xmax 2016 + public beta and everything seems to be ok.
There is a bug that i have experienced even since Anniversary edition with this xmax: when items drop they get stuck mid air and you can't pick them up. This still happens but, in public beta, when the game registers an item dropping, it will play the "special item drop sound" even tho is not on the ground yet. That way you know that something is there and stick around.

The only version i have tried besides the 2016 is the one from 2019 with title "x-max x10 with Atlantis support". And even tho i have noticed there an increase in hero monsters spawn and damage numbers that show, the Giza and banner quests still don't work on this version.

If anyone wants more difficulty with this particular challenge this would be the only mod i have in mind: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1740901463  . 10x monsters, 5x bosses, -40% exp. Buuuut, i wouldn't go there. I consider that adding curses to the classic xmax play is enough to make stuff unforgiving

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #687 on: 22 May 2022, 09:05:11 »
So you got the extra spawns with the expansions okay then?  If that's the case then no need to use the other ones.  I just wasn't sure it would work properly with the expansions since it hadn't been updated since the AE release.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #688 on: 22 May 2022, 11:16:26 »
Yes, the old xmax works ok with all the new updates. I have to admit i haven't been aware of the details going on around me but, i had my bosses, had my packs of monsters and didn't have any game braking bugs. I know for sure that the end game boss of eternal embers is not 3x but i understand why. That thing is a summon from an existing object. I think it would be kinda tricky to make the pedestal summon 3 bosses.


Stormyboy - Spasm - L36 Hunter AEARE (untwink,cursed) - Gardens of Babylon
https://imgur.com/undefined
https://imgur.com/vdVuc2v
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As for the electrum count: with 2 curses on i got 29.472 electrum with no farming which makes for 14.736 electrum/curse. Meaning 117.888 with 8 curses on (the maximum numbers). With the normal orb price being set at 12.000, you can buy a maximum of ~10 orbs.

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Re: The Xmax Hardcore Challenge
« Reply #689 on: 22 May 2022, 18:17:08 »
Doing good so far stormyboy.   :)

I decided to try a Ranger in the challenge.  Meet Rangering Xmax who's L13 and at the Megara Bluff so far.  Started with Nature and got the wolves out asap then moved to add Hunting at L8. 



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